2 L.I.T. Chicks (Leaders In Tech)
”2 L.I.T. Chicks” is a podcast series that showcases Leaders In Tech (L.I.T). Each episode features inspiring stories of pioneering women or allies who are breaking boundaries and shaping the future of technology. Tune in to hear honest conversations, insightful interviews, and empowering narratives that motivate, educate, and inspire the next generation of leaders in tech.
Episodes

Wednesday Nov 05, 2025
Wednesday Nov 05, 2025
In this episode of 2 Lit Chicks, Fern and Alicia sit down with Dee Maddox, Chief Excellence Officer of DMX Consulting, to unpack the journey from employee to entrepreneur — and from acceptable to exceptional. Dee shares how the pandemic became her catalyst for change, her powerful “DEED to Success” framework, and why building better bosses begins with self-awareness.
From NASA stories to the role of AI in leadership, Dee drops truth, wisdom, and a few laughs along the way. If you’re searching for purpose, passion, and practical steps to level up your career, this conversation is your reminder to design your path, demand excellence, and own your growth.
💡 We talk about:
Turning pain into purpose
Building better bosses
The DEED to Success framework
Purpose over paycheck
AI and leadership
Representation and trust
The power of reevaluation
Grab your notebook and get ready for a masterclass in leadership, authenticity, and staying lit in every lane.
✅ Follow us on Instagram! @2litchickspod
😎 We’re on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fernjohnson/ and https://www.linkedin.com/in/amakaye/
@TwoLITChicksPodcast #givingback
#2LitChicksPodcast
#WomenInLeadership
#DMXConsulting
#PurposeDrivenCareer
#DemandExcellence
#LeadershipDevelopment
#EmotionalIntelligence
#WomenOfColorInBusiness
#TrustAndRespect
#StayLit

Wednesday Oct 29, 2025
Wednesday Oct 29, 2025
In this electrifying episode of 2 LIT Chicks, hosts Fern Johnson and Alicia sit down with Eddie Bright Jr., Global CEO of ApTask Global, a veteran-certified, African-American-owned staffing powerhouse shaping the future of work.
Eddie drops straight gems on how AI is transforming recruiting, why technology and leadership go hand in hand, and what it truly means to lead with gratitude. From the rise of AI enablers to Gen Z’s new workforce mindset, this episode unpacks what the next generation of leaders needs to stay ahead of the curve.
💡 We talk about:
How AI is reshaping the staffing industry (and which jobs might disappear first)
Why understanding the why behind AI separates leaders from followers
Eddie’s journey from radio announcer to global CEO
His Gen Z workforce initiative changing lives in Newark
The power of gratitude, leadership, and giving back
What the military taught Eddie and Alicia about discipline, service, and resilience
This conversation is equal parts inspiration and real talk—just what you’d expect from the 2 LIT Chicks. Stay curious. Stay bold. Stay LIT.
✅ Follow us on Instagram! @2litchickspod
😎 We’re on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fernjohnson/ and https://www.linkedin.com/in/amakaye/
@TwoLITChicksPodcast #givingback
#2LitChicksPodcast #WomenInTech #Leadership #AIEthics #FutureOfWork #BlackExcellence #WomenInLeadership #StaffingInnovation #GenZWorkforce #PodcastCommunity #TechAndLeadership #StayLIT

Friday May 16, 2025
Friday May 16, 2025
2 Lit Chicks Podcast: ITSMF Awards Gala Episode
“What happens when the future of tech walks into a room—and every voice in that room feels seen, heard, and lit up?”
Join your host Fern Johnson on a front-row journey into the I-T-S-M-F Technology Leaders Awards Gala, straight from Houston, Texas.
In this special episode of Two Lit Chicks, we bring you behind the velvet rope—into the vibrant energy, bold ideas, and magnetic leaders redefining what tech leadership looks like.

Friday May 09, 2025
Friday May 09, 2025
Welcome to "Work Different" - the podcast that's challenging everything you thought you knew about business, productivity, and success. Its your girl Fern or 2 LIT Chicks Podcast, and today we're diving into a book that flipped the business world on its head: "Rework" by Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson. Basically, you need to STOP talking…and START working!!! Smarter, not harder…driving productivity and innovation.
Joining me today is another LIT Chick….Kiran Nagar, President and Managing Director of Arayna Technology.
When "Rework" hit shelves in 2010, these Basecamp founders didn't just suggest tweaking your business approach - they threw the entire rulebook out the window. Forget growth at all costs. Forget working yourself to death. Forget needing investors, elaborate business plans, and endless meetings.
"Rework" told us something radical: The old way is broken. Working smarter beats working longer. And sometimes, doing LESS is the secret to building something great.
Today, we're unpacking the revolutionary ideas from "Rework" that are even MORE relevant in today's chaotic work landscape. Whether you're running a business, thinking of starting one, or just trying to navigate your career, this episode might just change how you think about work forever.

Thursday Apr 24, 2025
Thursday Apr 24, 2025
Navigating Career Pivot Points: Insights from Tech Leaders
Two Lit Chicks Podcast with Fern Johnson & Tariro Mupamhadz
Episode Overview
This episode explores career transitions in the tech industry through the experiences of host Fern Johnson and guest Tariro Mupamhadz. It offers practical strategies for navigating pivotal career moments and developing leadership skills.
Episode Structure
Introduction (00:00-01:45)
00:00 Opening context: Tariro's move from Japan to London in 2020
00:30 Show introduction and welcome to Two Lit Chicks
00:59 Introduction of episode theme: Career Pivot Points
Professional Journey & Current Role (01:46-08:40)
01:46 Tariro's mentorship experiences and career development
03:04 Current role at Charlotte Tilbury - responsibilities and challenges
05:04 Discussion of UX research tools and technology implementation
06:44 Remote testing capabilities and expanding global research reach
Key Career Pivot Points (08:41-19:20)
08:41 Detailed insights from Tariro's experience in Tokyo
10:29 Decision-making process behind returning to the UK
14:18 Analysis of transferable skills and adapting to new environments
17:36 Perspectives on potential future career pivots
Leadership Development (19:21-23:18)
19:21 The evolution toward leadership roles
19:48 Setting and achieving ambitious career goals
20:45 Exploring different leadership styles and approaches
21:52 Strategies for effective leadership and team management
Personal & Strategic Considerations (23:19-29:53)
23:19 Balancing personal life and family with career decisions
25:30 Strategic career planning methodologies
27:36 The importance of having a "North Star" to guide career decisions
Support Systems & Reflection (29:54-37:00)
29:54 Building mentorship networks and support systems
33:02 Letters to future self: aspirations and guidance
35:47 Key takeaways and concluding thoughts
Core Themes
Adaptability during major career transitions
Leveraging transferable skills across different roles
The evolving integration of technology in various industries
Developing authentic leadership approaches
Creating balance between personal and professional aspirations
Establishing strong mentorship relationships

Thursday Apr 10, 2025
Thursday Apr 10, 2025
What happens when a power couple in tech trades NYC hustle for Amsterdam harmony? In this heartfelt and wisdom-rich episode of 2 L.I.T. Chicks, host Fern Johnson sits down with Carla and David Ogunrinde — longtime technologists, entrepreneurs, and partners in both life and leadership — to talk about what it really means to go global with intention.
From navigating long-term marriage through international relocation, to transforming their tech careers into purpose-centered practices, the Ogunrindes share lessons on slowing down, redefining success, and dreaming together. This episode is a love letter to alignment, awareness, and audacity.
Episode Chapters
00:00 — Introduction and Welcome
00:30 — Meet the Tech Power Couple: Carla and David Ogunrinde
01:59 — The Big Move: From NYC to Amsterdam as a Couple
02:50 — Navigating Marriage and Growth Abroad
04:08 — Dreaming and Planning Together
05:10 — Cultural Adaptation and New Perspectives
06:31 — The Leap to Amsterdam: A Decade in the Making
08:57 — Amsterdam vs. NYC: Energy, Ease, and Environment
10:46 — Adjusting to Time Differences and New Routines
13:34 — Life in Amsterdam: A Big Village Vibe
16:23 — Defining Success Beyond Hustle and Meetings
17:11 — Cultural Differences in Work-Life Balance
21:50 — The Dutch Approach to Technology as a Tool
30:13 — Intentional Living and Business in a Global Context
33:39 — Final Thoughts and Farewells

Monday Apr 07, 2025
Monday Apr 07, 2025
2 L.I.T. Chicks Podcast: Digital Disciplines - Transforming Business Through Technology
Join host Fern Johnson and three tech leaders from HP as they break down the four key digital disciplines that are revolutionizing business today. In this insightful episode, discover how companies like Netflix, Apple, and Spotify are using data, personalization, innovation, and integrated solutions to create exceptional customer experiences.
Our guests Algernita Clowe, Shauna Mitchell, and Ericka Hayes share practical insights from Joe Weinman's book "Digital Disciplines" and their own experiences implementing these strategies at major corporations.
You'll learn:
How to leverage data beyond basic reporting to drive real business value
Why personalized experiences create stronger customer relationships
The importance of "failing fast" and disrupting your own success
How to develop integrated solutions that solve customer problems
Whether you're a business leader, technology professional, or curious about digital transformation, this episode provides actionable strategies you can implement immediately.
Part of the IT Senior Management Forum (ITSMF) series featuring members of their Management Academy Program.
Find these leaders on LinkedIn:
inkedin.com/in/aclowe
linkedin.com/in/ericka-hayes-ma-phr-44458155
linkedin.com/in/shawna-smith-mitchell
#DigitalTransformation #BusinessStrategy #TechLeadership #DataDriven #Innovation

Friday Mar 28, 2025
Friday Mar 28, 2025
In this episode Fern and guests discuss the evolving landscape of gaming, the importance of passion and authenticity, and provide valuable advice for anyone looking to break into the gaming sector.
Explore the stories of unexpected fame, the importance of community, and the future vision for gaming and esports over the next few years.
00:00 Accidental TikTok Fame
00:18 Welcome to 2 Lit Chicks Podcast
01:32 Introducing the Guests
03:00 Herculyse Journey into Gaming
07:36 James' Path to the Gaming Industry
11:30 Thomas' Entry into Gaming
14:17 Challenges and Changes in eSports
21:22 The Evolution of eSports and Audience Engagement
22:47 The Role of Creativity in Game Development and Casting
25:44 Challenges and Competition in the eSports Industry
33:51 Future Vision for Gaming and eSports
41:08 Advice for Aspiring Professionals in Gaming

Friday Mar 21, 2025
Friday Mar 21, 2025
🚨 PSA: Stop managing everyone else's comfort before your own. Your power lies in understanding what you bring to the room and choosing how you want to show up.
For every leader navigating today's complex landscape, this episode offers a roadmap to authentic presence and sustainable impact.
In this powerful Episode about 'Self Awareness', executive powerhouses Renea J Pierre and Tia Buckham-White unpack:
Why the "worthiness complex" holds leaders back more than imposter syndrome
How to receive honest feedback when people are afraid to give it
Three practical steps to walk into any room with complete confidenceWays different generations approach self-awareness in the workplace
As Tia brilliantly puts it: "If you don't know yourself, you don't know what load to pick up or put down."
Tune in to learn how to live the life you imagined by knowing yourself better.

Friday Mar 14, 2025
Friday Mar 14, 2025
Our Season 2 premiere episode features "Chaos Whisperer" Cass Cooper tackling economic anxiety and redefining success. We dive into self-awareness, transferable skills, and setting healthy boundaries at work.
Cass drops wisdom on conquering workplace fear (especially around DEI), maintaining resilience, and remembering your worth isn't defined by your job title.
Listen now and share!
Season 2 is Live! Watch the 3 Newest Episodes!
S2: Episode 4
How Companies like Spotify & Apple are Leveraging Digital Disciplines to Get Ahead in Tech
S2: Episode 3
We have 3 great guests and one who is an emerging TikTok Esports influencer!
S2: Episode 2
📍For every leader navigating today's complex landscape, this episode offers a roadmap to authentic presence and sustainable impact.
S2: Episode 1
2025 has launched rapid changes leading to economic anxiety. Fern Johnson and guest Cass Cooper aka "The Chaos Whisperer" discuss powerful ways to navigate with confidence.
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SEASON 1 EPISODES
S1: Episode 1
Tech veterans explore how upskilling programs are revolutionizing tech careers and industry talent.
S1: Episode 2
Explore the impact of AI on work and discover how organizations like Wells Fargo and Mechanized AI are bringing artificial intelligence to life today.
S1: Episode 3 Part 1
Explore whether tech internships are still worth it in 2024!
S1: Episode 3 Part 2
Explore whether tech internships are still worth it in 2024!
S1: Episode 4
How to Secure a Career in Cyber Security
S1: Episode 5
How Your Attitude Impacts Your Altitude in Tech
S1: Episode 6
STEAM in Motion: How to Marry Art and Tech
S1: Episode 7
Nonprofits Empowering Women in Tech
S1: Episode 8
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